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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.14 10:53:00 -
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I like it.
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Posted - 2006.06.14 11:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Tuxford
Thats the thing with ECM. No matter how high your sensor strength you can always get jammed. A single ECCM tech 1 decreases people jam chance by almost half, tech two by half. What you want is really a "rewrite" of the system.
Which makes them very useful. Im definently getting one of the tech 2 ones in some of my setups.
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Posted - 2006.06.14 11:29:00 -
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Well, then lower the cpu requirements for it. How about 30 cpu?
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Posted - 2006.06.14 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/06/2006 11:32:47
Just knowing your considering looking at it is good enough. 
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Posted - 2006.06.17 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak
tank
6seige t2 2x medium AC T2
xl t2 booster, amp, sensor booster, 2invol, heavy cap injecter
3x bcu, 1x cpu t2, 1x pdu T2
max tank, max dmg, gang tp for you! cpu limited my ass [that is the best pvp tank without gimping damage one bit, its equal to a dual T2 rep with 3 energzed adaptives [which is near impossible on all BS]
Yeah, but this would suck at solo pvp. Doesnt matter if you do huge damage and tank like a god since nobody in their right mind will stay for the outcome of the fight. Good for scaring people off with though.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:11:00 -
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The EW system really needs a complete redesign. The current boost of ECCM modules was good, since it cuts the chance to get jammed by a multispectral jammer in half. But still, during a longer fight, your probability to get jammed is still high. This makes the target lose 20 seconds (cycle time)+ new locktime of dps, which is a huge advantage. Equipping a single multispectral is still very much worth it for not dedicated EW ships.
Personally i think maybe target jammers should be limited to dedicated EW ships only. What would be the disadvantages of this approach?
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Posted - 2006.07.05 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Serret
Yes, but it only works sometimes. As opposed to dedicated ECM ships, which only fail sometimes.
I think with a 4.8 multispectral and good skills, you will have up to 40% to jam the other ship every 20 seconds, right (depends on ship etc etc)? Then they have to relock, thats another 10 seconds. Personally i think its pretty much the "I Win" button to equip it, if the other guy doesnt have one.
Still think these modules should be worthwhile only on dedicated EW ships. They are just too powerful on normal ships. Everybody with a free med slot will use one, since the advantage is so huge.
Maybe its a good idea to increase their fitting requirements quite alot (combined with ship bonuses to fitting them on EW ships). That would make it possible to fit them on normal ships, but you would perhaps be required to gimp your setup alot to do it.
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 08/07/2006 11:38:33
Originally by: Sir Bart
Originally by: Tor Anasa
ugh for 1 med slot you get a 4.2 jamming strength. That does not give you a 40% chance to jam anythign other then a frig.......
4.2 is a number before any skills are applied. with level 4 signal dispersion you get +20% to that making strength of about 5.
Armageddon sensor str is 17. So : 5 / 17 = 29.4%
Not 40% but a wee bit high don't you think?
SB
Check the Hypnos multispectrals.. they have a strength of 4.8. Also there are faction ones that have even higher base strength. Using Hypnos below:
So with your example above: 5.76 / 17 = 33.8% for the armageddon with 1 named multispectral.
Vs some cruisers:
Maller = 41%
Rupture = 48%
Vs some frigates:
Tristan, Kestrel etc = 57.6%
Who wouldnt use one of these things if they have a slot free? You basicly have a very good chance to completely shut down the opponent for 30 seconds (20 sec jam, 10 sec relock). That is often equal to winning the fight.
About 33% every 20 seconds of shutting down a battleship? Yes please.
About 45% every 20 seconds of shutting down a cruiser? Hell yes.
Its too good in my opinion. But until they change the EW system, people will keep using them in solo pvp. Ive watched alot of pvp videos where 1 battleship takes out 2 battleships in fights because of the target jamming working this way.
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Posted - 2006.07.16 10:03:00 -
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Tuxford, make it a priority to change the EW system please. Nobody is happy with it.. you have countless threads on it.
Either make target jamming possible for only dedicated EW ships, or remove multispectrals from the game. Or boost counter modules with another 100%. Again.
Please, please make this a priority!
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Posted - 2006.08.27 09:36:00 -
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Isnt it time to unstick this thread and let it die? Its so far off topic its not useful anymore. The ecm debate will go on in other threads.
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